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The Pac and what I’m hearing…

I’ve bounced this off multiple sources who are either hearing or telling me the same thing…

The belief at the moment — and things can change like Colorado doing an about-face — is that they’ll add one more if everyone else stays. Two more if Arizona bounces. The remaining teams would sign shorter term TV deal and the new team(s) would take a decent amount less. If it’s one team, it very likely could be SMU and not SDSU, because the belief is it’s easier for SMU to get out of their current deal.

Additionally, something that’s been talked about on the board by me or others close to it, is that I’ve been told in the last year that Utah has had B1G discussions, where they’ve been given guidelines on what the B1G wants to see for their next round of expansion. 1) Increase the research funding by a few million per year (doable). 2) Maintain their football competitiveness, being in the top 12-16 or better of the CFP conversation and in the thick of it for the Pac-12 title. They’re not looking for them to win the Pac every year. It’s really reasonable expectations. Also, USC, Michigan, and Ohio State are among the B1G schools that are advocates for Utah.

Can all of this be flipped on its head in a week? Sure, but Utah and other top schools like Oregon, Washington, and Stanford, have eyes towards adding and not making rash decisions.

Breathe, don’t panic. No one at the U is really panicking, nor is there really any need to.

Isaiah Garcia nugget…

This thing seems to be all over the place recently. Cole and I had mentioned he was a heavy USC lean. Then their OL slots filled up. Stanford seemed to emerge and it’s a school he’s long had his eye on. I’m also told that Utah still believes they’re in it… A wild card to watch is that USC had a OL recruit decommit today. It’ll be interesting to see if that can throw a late surprise at everyone.

Here is an interesting thought.......

What if the folks getting played is Colorado? The only angst over the Buffs leaving is egg on the face of the conference getting jilted by a dog program that could never compete.

What if:
  1. There is a deal in hand but it has been kept tight to force Colorado's hand? A hand they know will lead to their withdrawl without being "kicked out."
  2. What if the conference really wants to secure SoCal and add SDSU and that there is NO viable partner with them?
  3. What if the SDSU invite is predicated on Colorado leaving then?
  4. What if the TV deal only wants to pay for 10 west coast schools and save the $30M it would have to pay to a school like SMU that adds little to nothing? The TV angle gets exactly where it is today without adding a plus 1 dog and they save $30M as a result - not small change.
A go forward conference with NO Colorado and PLUS San Diego State is a better conference than it was yesterday.

It is entirely possible this was a set up. The REAL ISSUE will be if the second school coming with Colorado is SDSU. If it isn't then I am actually QUITE alright with what is happening. If SDSU goes to the B12 then the P12 demise is imminent.

Remember.... P12 disolving is still at hand. Same with the ACC. Same with the B12. It's time to be steady and smart and position yourself for the next 5+ years.

Kliavkoff’s Days Numbered???

Thursday & Friday the world of college media will be focused on Big12 media days. While it’s obvious that talk about Texas and Oklahoma leaving and the impact on the league of mvthe four newcomers with garner their share of media focus. That said, you can bet Brett Yormark Is licking his chops to skewer his buddy George and the Pac 12 even more. In all likelihood, he will boast about expansion, PAC 12 failure to have no deal so far, and various teams in the Pac 12 who really are interested in joining the Big 12. Whether that’s true or not is irrelevant he wants to pump up his conference and knocked down the Pac 12 a couple more notches. Knowing that George Kliavkoff will not be out in front this pending media barrage defending his conference, or his reputation, Kliavkoff is about to take another big media hit.

This begs the question. If the next two weeks is a pile on George exercise, then the media deal that is may finally be announced sometime in July if then, fails to meet even minimum expectations is Kliavkoff’s job in jeopardy? He likely won’t be negotiating the next deal in 4-6 years and he’s done almost nothing to promote the Pac 12. University presidents have gotta be looking for another commissioner. Kliavkoff’s saving grace is the fact that Larry Scott was such a horrible commissioner the bar was really set low for him. Sadly, George has failed to take advantage of that.

Hopefully the next Pac12 commissioner will have some football experience and some imagination on how he can improve the standing of the Pac 12. Because Kliavkoff has been a complete failure.
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Larry Scott vs George Kliavkoff: Who's worse?

Who was worse?

  • Larry Scott

    Votes: 15 83.3%
  • George Kliavkoff

    Votes: 3 16.7%

Read before voting.

PROS:

Larry Scott:

1. Expanded the Pac-12 after the previous commissioner, Tom Hansen, refused to for multiple years. Scott, shortly after taking over, initially targeted the top-tier Big 12 schools, including Texas and Oklahoma, in a move that would have truly created the first major super conference. This fell through, but Scott was able to land Colorado and Utah at the time.

2. In 2011, he negotiated, at the time, the biggest media deal in college athletics history. It quickly erased the financial gap the Pac-12 was experiencing with other leagues and set the tone for other mega-deals that would come.

3. Orchestrated the creation of the Pac-12 Networks, with a highly professional staff at a time where conferences were struggling creating their own conference networks (the Big 12 would never be able to create one - while the ACC came much later).

4. Okay. That's all I've got.

George Kliavkoff:

1. Realized it was way too expensive to keep the Pac-12 offices in San Francisco and decided to ... relocate them to another Bay Area city, San Ramon. Which is still extremely expensive.

2, I can't think of anything else.

CONS:

Larry Scott:

1. Was clearly financially inept - not only with the Comcast revelations but in overall salary. The Pac-12 paid this guy top dollar and got very little top-level results.

2. He failed, over and over, to get better distribution for the Pac-12 Networks nationally - and it ultimately turned into a headache for the conference.

3. In 2011, Scott was the final nail in the coffin of expansion, as Texas and Oklahoma were rumored (again) to be Pac-12 bound. This time, he told the schools he did not support expansion (to play devil's advocate, Scott couldn't get reassurance from Texas to accept equal revenue-sharing + giving up the Longhorn Network - but still, what if...).

4. His poor leadership and decision making led USC and UCLA to bolt for the Big 10, creating this mess to begin with.

George Kliavkoff:

1. Failed to use his power as commissioner, and therefore the influence he had in such a role, to convince the Pac-12 presidents to support expansion after Texas and Oklahoma left for the SEC. There was a fifteen-minute attempt, with three presidents and three athletic directors, to discuss potentially raiding the Big 12. USC was seemingly confused why they were looking to expand, wasn't receptive in the early minutes of the meeting and the idea was scuttled before Kliavkoff announced the Pac-12 was not going to expand. There was very little attempt, according to reports, from his side to persuade the schools to expand. It was pretty much a halfhearted attempt to see if there was interest. At the time, I think most felt okay with it - but in hindsight, it was a very shortsighted move.

2. Was seemingly blindsided by USC and UCLA leaving - this after striking a partnership deal with the Big 10 and ACC. It makes you wonder how well he's communicating with the schools when something like this happens (we'll see this show up again).

3. Completely cut-off the Big 12 from a partnership because, to quote, "the Big 12 media rights can't be negotiated until 2024, Pac-12 schools have no motivation to join the Big 12," which turned out to be a miscalculation because...

4. Misjudged the Big 12 by assuming they would take their media deal to the market in 2024, and therefore set the market price that the Pac-12 could then exceed, while also giving the Pac-12 a near-year head start over the Big 12 on signing a new media deal. Except Yormark decided to keep with the same partners and negotiated what was likely a smaller overall price, capping what the Pac-12 was likely to make, and of course, having a deal done long before the Pac-12 could even get into the final stages of negotiations for theirs.

4. Despite beginning the media negotiations last summer, the Pac-12 continually struggled finding a deal that was suitable to sign - and a process that was supposed to wrap up in December, pushed through into January and February and then March and now, almost a year after beginning the process, a deal still hasn't been struck which has led to...

5. Colorado leaving for the Big 12. An absolute indictment of the current conference, and its leadership, especially since Colorado is apparently blaming instability, which is directly linked to the fact they still don't have a deal. On top of that, once again, Kliavkoff looks blindsided by this move - as just the other day, he was openly saying no Pac-12 team was jumping.

Who's worse?

Things to factor:

Scott did some very good things early on. It's just that everything after 2011 was one terrible misstep after another. Do his pros outweigh the cons? Absolutely not - they were devastating cons that will likely have a hand in the demise of the Pac-12.

Conversely, tho, Kliavkoff has barely any pros since taking over in 2021. He's seen three teams leave. A very muddled media deal negotiation (and that's putting it nicely) and the conference is far worse off, perception wise, than it was when he took over.

Still, his cons are probably not as devastating as Scott's as Scott's were so systemic overall.

But Scott did have some positives and I can't think of any from Kliavkoff at this moment.

So, who was worse?
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