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The week of the UCLA game.

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Someone help me out here - at least those who feel comfortable maybe sharing inside-ish events.

Remember the week of the UCLA game? Of course, prior to that week, almost everyone had the UCLA game circled as the most likely return date for Cam Rising.

Then the week hit and suddenly, buzz about Rising's return picks up. We even see the Vegas Line shift significantly:

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Other Utah-related sources tease a high probability of Cam returning.

Then late Thursday, or early Friday, I can't remember, a dramatic shift - it's now looking less likely. Vegas odds drop.

Then we get the news from Peter Thamel, hours before the game, that he won't be starting:

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Of course, we then finally hear the truth about Rising: his injury was way worse than initially reported and that maybe it wasn't even practical to expect him back through the first-half of the season.

My question:

How close was Cam really to playing in that UCLA game? If not close at all, where'd the rumors start? Credible people, over many different platforms, put out specific percentages indicating there was at least a high-level of confidence he'd return (definitely above a 50/50 chance) ... only for things to dip Thursday. We're basically a month out now from that week (Saturday's game will essentially be a month from the UCLA game) and I'm guessing Rising won't be playing vs USC.

What the hell happened between UCLA and now? It's just really difficult for me to believe that Cam hid the severity of his injuries into September and no one on the coaching staff or the training staff knew about it. I can buy they didn't maybe know back in spring - but not in September. So, I am assuming they had some level of knowledge about his injury. Knowing that, how was he so close that week, to the point, again, credible people were hinting at his return, and here we are a month later and he's still likely not playing?

I get the swelling and the fact he's been cleared to practice. I get the coaches were deciding back then on Thursdays who would start. I get all that. But that week was entirely different from any other week that Cam has been out. There's been speculation - but no hard evidence to point to Cam coming back. There was the UCLA week. Again, people I respect, who have strong ties to the program, were hinting at a return.

But in retrospect, he obviously wasn't as ready as the buzz suggested or he had a major setback that hasn't been discussed because there's no way he's THAT close to returning and yet, four weeks later, is still maybe a few weeks out from returning.

Does what I'm asking make sense?

The only explanation I have that makes any level of sense is that there was a strong disinformation campaign run, involving many people closely linked to the program, in hopes of giving Utah an advantage because Cam was never goin to play.

Then it backfired because fans expected him back and he didn't come back and they felt frustrated with the teasing of his return.

Which would explain the transparency that came out a week or so after the UCLA game?

I'm not saying I believe that - I am just saying maybe it makes sense? Beyond him reinjuring himself that week. I don't know. Thoughts?
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Bitter Sweet USC game.

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I was supposed to go to this game with my Ute alumni buddy but I couldn’t make it happen. So I had a party at my place instead. Prior to the party I went for a pregame cocktail at my local bar here in Rapid City SD. I was telling a group of eclectic fans about the best return man ever Errol Tucker and showed them his highlight film. Well 20 minutes later my buddy FaceTimes me from the tailgate party at SC…..yep and it was Errol himself, the local bar crowd couldn’t believe it:). I told him I was at the Tennessee game in 84 when he was tripped on the opening kickoff, he couldn’t believe I remembered that. I also asked him if he invented the fake fair catch but I couldn’t hear is answer.
Go Utes🤛🏼
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(Semi) INSTANT REACTION: The bully wins a thriller

Alex Markham
I just wanted to start this thread, because I’m working on the takeaways plus another article.

What a game. I apologize to Bryson Barnes for calling him a game manager. The dude was nails, even with the pick-6.

Losing Lander is a gigantic blow. Really sucks.

Jackson and Vaki are a duo that came keep Utah in contention. There’s finally life to Utah’s offense.

The defense struggled early and late in the game, but in between they were suffocatingly good.

More to come, but I apologize I almost forgot to post the instant reaction.

Let’s hear from everyone else.
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Report clears Utes gymnastics head coach of abuse allegations

After an extensive investigation, it has been determined that there was no substantiated wrongdoing in the University of Utah's Women’s Gymnastics Program.The
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Interesting article and read. I honestly was wondering a month or 2 ago why we had several girls transfer out. Hopefully our program can reign this all in and not have it be a black mark for the red rocks. What are your thoughts?
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Thoughts on the state ruling requiring Utah universities to disclose NIL contracts.

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Is this motivated by BYU panel members to stonewall Utah with BYU playing catch-up as a private university looking to increase NIL without relative restrictions?

Overall landscape? What are the opinions on the Congressional side show? What's the overall direction this will go in other states?

If endorsements are coming from taxpayers, why should the public have the privilege to see NIL contracts?

Will this decision stand up in court. If so, what might be done to counter it?

Can players be put into financial categories? Like financial agreements that categorize where personal NIL benefits can be divided into a series of subsets or brackets? Like say, $15K to 30K, $30K to $60K to whatever amount up into the millions and list it inside annual terms categorically? From there, would players just submit contracts that have the more specific financial terms redacted? The universities can't reveal the exact amounts if the players don't right? Is that too risky? Players could flip the script unless I am missing something. In actuality, I am probably missing a lot. That's why I am asking so many questions.
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2024 OOC

displacedute
So I know this is far away, but I got to wondering, what are we going to do about the 2024 schedule. I know Harlan has said we may keep Baylor as an OOC (pending the Big 12 being able to work with us on scheduling), but there's no way we're not playing BYU every year, so that game at least will need to be replaced. I expect we'll play BYU in November, so we'll need someone for 9/7. Here's every FBS team I could find with that date open right now:

ACC teams: BC, FSU, GA Tech, UVA, Wake Forest, Syracuse
B1G teams: MSU, UCLA
SEC teams: Kentucky, SCar
AAC teams: FAU, Rice, Navy, SMU, Temple
CUSA teams: NMSU, Liberty, LA Tech
MAC teams: Miami (OH)
MWC teams: Hawaii, UNM
Sun Belt teams: Louisiana

I didn't go in depth to see if any of them have less than 12 or 13 games, but I know Hawaii only has 4 games scheduled right now (Oregon, UCLA, N. Iowa at home, @SHSU), and they're allowed 5, so that's a possibility.
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